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    • PenFed Credit Union

      McLean, VA 22102-3381

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      PO Box 320307 Alexandria, VA 22320-4307

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      PO Box 456 Alexandria, VA 22313-0456

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      PO Box 1432 Alexandria, VA 22313-1432

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      120 Windsor Center Dr East Windsor, NJ 08520-1407

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    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      We have a car loan that originated with *********** Credit Union. PenFed acquired ****. In Feb 2022, we noticed an anomaly with our payment - a notice was sent saying that our payment was late. This payment was set up in office with our loan officer to occur automatically each month in an electronic transfer from our bank, at the origination of the loan. This loan officer remains the same person throughout this experience (he stayed employed through the merger). We reached out to him inquiring about the notice - he responded that our payment was indeed paid on time and there was no anomaly. That it had been applied appropriately, etc. This happened again and we called him again. He again assured us that the loan was in good standing and the payment was indeed received on time. Being concerned that he was not looking in to this fully, we called the main number of the credit union to speak with someone else. This person also assured us that the payments were working as expected. We were assured the payments were being applied to the principle and that they were on time. This subsided and then began happening again. We did more digging and by this time we were able to see that our principle was not decreasing as expected. We have multiple email trails, with screen shots, to support these conversations with the bank and the multiple assurances we received. We finally requested an in person meeting with a supervisor. That person did, indeed, acknowledge that our payments were being applied to interest and not to principle, as they should have been. We requested that this be resolved and fixed, and she said she would follow up with her "interest department." Since then, she has only replied to our inquiries with "the status of your loan is in accordance with the terms of your loan." We have paid thousands of dollars more than we should due to this error, and we have been unable to get the bank to re-engage with us.

      Business response

      11/15/2023

      We received your Better Business Bureau complaint on November 13, 2023. We appreciate the opportunity to address your concerns.

      Prior to January 2023, your auto loan had a recurring monthly payment debited on the 18th of each month from your PenFed share account, which in turn had an incoming deposit from an external account. The incoming deposit to the share account was not always received in time for the recurring loan payment, but our systems brought the loan current with an internal transfer each time this occurred.

      Thank you for speaking with a Financial Center Manager in January 2023 to set up an ACH payment directly to the auto loan from your external account. Consolidating the two separate transfers into one direct transfer will help eliminate any timing conflicts. All payments since February 2023 have been received on time.

      We carefully reviewed your auto loan and confirmed all payments were applied accurately to principal and interest. PenFed auto loan interest accrues daily. To determine the amount of interest for any given payment, we calculate the annual percentage rate (APR) to a daily finance charge, then multiply this by the outstanding principal balance and the number of days since the last payment. For example, of your most recent $475.98 payment on October 16, 2023, $22.44 was applied to interest and $453.54 was applied to principal.

      You may confirm the accurate principal and interest allocation of your payments by reviewing the statements we mail to you monthly. You may obtain copies of past statements by contacting Member Services at ************ or online at PenFed.org/help.

      We hope this information is helpful. Thank you for the opportunity to serve your financial needs.

      Sincerely,

      Senior Vice President, Operations Support
    • Complaint Type:
      Billing Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      I had a stroke and I'm doing this speech to text.. PenFed bought my loan from ***************** the credit union that I used to work for. I bought my car in December 2015. They took the loan over in 2019 and they don't have any records of my payments that I made to ******** *** ***** credit union. They are trying to repossess my car saying I owe them money and that's not true. I need them to prove to me that I owe them money and I bought the car in December 2015. They are reporting it incorrectly on my credit report and is causing me to not have a place to stay because I can't rent an apartment if I behind on any loans they're saying I owe $1600 I never saw any paperwork that they would increase my loan amount to that figure. I try to get a hardship loan and they said they can't grant me a hardship loan because I didn't pay and I said why should I pay you something that I don't owe you? I want them to forgive the loan and say that I owe a certain amount or not owe anything

      Business response

      11/17/2023

      We received your Better Business Bureau complaint on November 7, 2023. We appreciate the opportunity to address your concerns. We received a similar complaint from you through the ************************************ (****) and responded on November 2, 2023.  

      Your original auto loan with *********** Federal Credit Union (FCU), was established on January 12, 2016, for $51,420.94. The loan proceeds were sent to ************** We will mail you a copy of your promissory note for your records.

      You refinanced/modified your loan with *********** FCU in August 2017 for $46,249.18. We provided you with a copy of your January 2016 and August 2017 statements with our November 2, 2023 **** response. The August statements show the refinance transaction.

      PenFed merged with *********** FCU (not ******** * *****)in May 2019, and your loan balance at that time was $40,488.08. We have provided you with a transaction history that shows all your payments made to *********** FCU beginning with the August 2017 refinance through November 2023.

      We want to assure you that your loan has been properly credited for all payments received, as evidence by the transaction history. However, refinancing the loan in August 2017 did extend the loan term significantly, to April 2025. The last payment we received and applied to the loan was in July 2022, when the balance was approximately $28,500. Given that the loan’s maturity date is not until April 2025, the loan would still have a balance as of November 2023 even if all the scheduled payments had been made.

      We received your hardship application in October 2022, and we denied it based on our determination that you had the capacity to repay the loan based the original terms. Your loan is no longer eligible for loan modification consideration due to its significantly past due status.

      In January 2023, we purchased a Collateral Protection Insurance policy after being notified there was a lapse in your auto insurance. We added the policy premium of $3,690.00 to your loan, bringing the balance to $32,246.67. We recalculated your monthly payment to $1,285.94 based on the outstanding balance and remaining loan term.

      As stated in our previous responses, the outstanding balance is valid, owed by you, and will not be forgiven. We urge you to contact us so we can either direct our assigned collateral recovery agent to pick up the vehicle, or otherwise discuss mutually agreeable arrangements to address the arrears. We look forward to hearing from you.

      Sincerely,

      Senior Vice President, Operations Support 
    • Complaint Type:
      Sales and Advertising Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      I filled a FTC theft report. I also filled an complaint with the **** for the second time. Pentagon Federal Credit Union responded with Letter Dated August 23, 2023 stating fraud claim was denied and the case closed. After receiving the letter the Penfed phone number and email, I sent and email with FTC report attached and police report alone with I.D and Utility bill. I sent email on August 29th, 2023. I waited almost 30 days with no response from penned fraud department. To as of September almost a month prior to sending email with documentation to Penfed fraud department. I decided to call today to speak with a supervisor her Name Was ******* she is the Operations department supervisor. She stated that she would resubmit the case with the documents attached.

      Business response

      10/16/2023

      We received your Better Business Bureau complaint on October 12, 2023. We appreciate the opportunity to address your concerns.

      Thank you for the opportunity to respond again to your identity theft claim.

      We have received and responded to your prior identity theft claims, both directly with you and through the ************************************* Our Senior Fraud Specialist conducted two thorough investigations and confirmed you are responsible for the account in question. The personal identifying information used to open the account, including Social Security number, phone number, and address, all verify as belonging to you via public record. Additionally, between June 2017 and March 2018, we mailed statements and collection notices to you at the address you provided with this BBB complaint.  

      We charged off the account in March 2018, and subsequently sold the account to Axiom Acquisition Venture, LLC. You can contact them at ************ to discuss payment arrangements to satisfy the balance.

      I hope this information is helpful.

      Sincerely,
      VP Enterprise Fraud Operations
    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      I have contacted Penfed (my current credit card company of over 8 years) multiple time in the last few months at their customer care phone number. I did so because I no longer have a checking/ savings account with them but opted in to use an external account (my outside bank) to make a payment on my Penfed credit card. Each time I spoke to Penfeds reps, I was given a form to fill out which I did and returned. I then was walked through setting up the external payment online, which I did. I lastly was told that I needed to wait until two small deposits were made into my external account in order to verify it before I could use the external account to make a payment towards my Penfed credit card. Each time I called in to check on this, I was told it was pending. I got multiple calls from their payment collection team because I missed my payment due to this. Penfed allowed NO OTHER OPTION to make a payment towards my credit card since I did not have their checking/ savings. I also am not local to them to visit a branch. I requested a manager for callback multiple times which they never called me, only promised to have one call. THIS CAUSED A PAST DUE PAYEMENT record on my experian and equifax credit report which dropped my credit score. I believe this was not in fault of my own, but a fault of Penfeds system as well as customer care reps who lacked the knowledge and care when I would call about this issue. I am demanding Penfed remove the past due record entry on my credit report or I will seek further legal action. They have all calls monitored and recorded from the countless times I called in regarding this issue as well as every time I brought it up when they called me about payments.

      Business response

      09/28/2023

      We received your Better Business Bureau complaint on September 24, 2023. We appreciate the opportunity to address your concerns.

      PenFed offers many options for making credit card payments, including mailed check or money order payments, internal transfers from checking or savings, and transfers from external accounts. From January to June 2023, you made mobile deposits to your PenFed savings account, then paid your credit card online from the savings account.

      Our records indicate you made no credit card payments between June 17, 2023 and August 21, 2023, despite having made a mobile deposit to your savings account on June 19, 2023. You missed both the July and August 2023 due dates, so August 2023 was reported accurately as 30 days past due.

      Our Collections team made many attempts to contact you in July and August to remind you of the past due payment. We reached you on August 15th, but you declined our offer to take a payment. We have no record of you calling us until August 21, 2023, the date you paid the credit card online with the funds in your savings account. During your August 21st call, you asked to add a new external account and our team assisted you with initiating this process online. Our records confirm you successfully made a credit card payment from the new external account on September 16, 2023.

      Based on the information presented and our thorough review, we are declining your request to remove our accurate reporting of the late August 2023 payment, as we believe the information obtained from the credit reporting agencies is reliant on all financial institutions providing full and accurate information. While we understand this was not the outcome you desired, we hope the information in this response is helpful. Thank you for being a valued PenFed member.

      Sincerely,
      Vice President, Collections

      Customer response

      10/05/2023

      [To assist us in bringing this matter to a close, you must give us a reason why you are rejecting the response. If no reason is received your complaint will be closed as Answered]

       Complaint: ********

      I am rejecting this response because:
      It’s clearly a scam / conflict of interest. You need to do your research better as you record all calls and I urge you to review this further. Each and every time your team called me , I made a payment and they could never get my external bank account issue resolved . I was transferred at least twice per each call. I spoke to your general customer service, credit card payment team, and I’m guessing past due payment collection team. Each time they told me to wait until I see the deposits before I can use the account . NEVER did your credit union tell me I had payment options outside of this - only wait for the external bank deposits to verify the account but you can make a payment with me right now over the phone. Eventually I HAD ENOUGH. You retain these recorded calls and to tell me that you don’t see these conversations happening is clearly a conflict of interest as you hold the evidence I need to prove it. I will take this legal due to the impact it has had on my credit report and I can get all the recorded calls that way or through the freedom of information act . PenFed is a fraud and I will continue to echo that same message to family , friends and neighbors. This one issue that you have cause WILL cause you to lose customers , I will make sure of it. 

      Regards,

      *************************
    • Complaint Type:
      Billing Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      I asked if PenFed could remove the inaccurate and discrepant payment history from my account. They did not take accountability for inaccurately reporting that I was 60 days past due to *******, and 30 days past due to ******** and ********** during the same month of May 2023. How is it possible to be 30 days and 60 days late during the same months. I've attached my credit report as proof of the inaccurate and discrepant reporting. They are not taking accountability for reporting inaccurate information on my credit reports. When I spoke to a representative, ****, he told me PenFed can report the account as 60 days past due even if it has not reached 60 days late yet, because the payment is late beyond 30 days. I know this to be false and a violation of the FCRA. Not only are they refusing to correct the mistake on my credit report, they are now telling me anything to get me to go away. I know PenFed has the discretion and ability to remove the inaccurate payment data but they are claiming the can not remove it. I asked if I could provide proof of the incorrect reporting and the PenFed representative stated they have access to the information already. If they are relying on the same inaccurate information as being reported to the credit bureaus, how can they fix the problem? I am requesting that this inaccurate and discrepant payment history be removed from all 3 credit bureaus.

      Business response

      08/30/2023

      We received your Better Business Bureau complaint on August 27, 2023. We appreciate the opportunity to address your concerns regarding your PenFed Gold credit card account.

      As we have received correspondence from you regarding this issue multiple times, we thoroughly reviewed your account and confirmed to you, in writing, the accuracy of the information we are reporting to the credit reporting agencies. During an August 9th phone call, our Consumer Banking Member Experience Senior Analyst explained it is not our policy to provide goodwill adjustments.

      Thank you for the opportunity to serve you.

      Sincerely,
      Senior Vice President, Consumer Products

      Customer response

      09/07/2023

      [To assist us in bringing this matter to a close, you must give us a reason why you are rejecting the response. If no reason is received your complaint will be closed as Answered]

       Complaint: ********

      I am rejecting this response because:
      PenFed did not address the issue or do anything about my complaint. They are still reporting my account as 60 days late in May 2023 on *******, but reporting 30 days late during the same month in May 2023 on ******** and **********. How is this accurate and fair credit reporting? They are refusing to address the issue and just provided an arrogant response saying they told me they couldn't provide any adjustment to my credit report. How is it fair that they can continue to report this payment history inaccurate and basically just tell me to deal with it? PenFed is claiming they are reporting accurately but my attached credit reports refutes their claim.   My attached recent credit reports show PenFed is inconsistent with the way they are reporting my payment history for May 2023. Instead of trying to resolve a customer's complaint they have continued to ignore me and refuse to address the discrepant information on my credit reports. As a compromise and for the sake of customer service can this payment data for May 2023 be updated to NO DATA since the reporting is discrepant? As I resolution I would accept PenFed just updating the May 2023 payment history to NO DATA since there seems to be a disagreement on both ends on how this information is being reported. I have the obvious proof though because my credit reports shows that PenFed is not reporting accurate and consistent information to my credit reports. Even though I've disputed this several times and show proof over and over, PenFed has still decided to do nothing to address their reporting mistake.

      Regards,

      ***************************

      Business response

      09/18/2023

      We received your Better Business Bureau response rejection on September 12, 2023. We appreciate the opportunity to further address your concerns.

      In addition to your prior BBB complaint, we have also responded to your CFPB complaint and correspondence addressed to our President, confirming the accuracy of the information we furnish to the credit reporting agencies for your PenFed Gold credit card account. We are reporting the account as 30+ days late in May 2023 to all three reporting agencies. If you have any concern regarding how one of the credit reporting agencies is presenting that information on the consumer version of your credit report, you will need to address your concern directly with the specific credit reporting agency.

      I hope this information is helpful.

      Sincerely,
      Senior Vice President, Consumer Products

      Customer response

      09/21/2023

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       Complaint: ********

      I am rejecting this response because: there is no resolution being offered. The credit bureaus told me the information is coming from PenFed but now PenFed is blaming the credit union. No one is fixing the problem even though I'm showing proof of the discrepant reporting on my credit reports.

      Regards,

      ***************************
    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Resolved
      I contacted PenFed customer service on 7/16/23 as I no longer could access my online account. I was told my account was locked due to potential fraud concerns and that I needed to call back the next day. I called again multiple times on 7/17/23, as either the phone system or the CSR I was working with hung up on me. I finally got through to someone helpful named *****. She informed me that I would need to submit personal documents containing sensitive information to prove my identity to PenFed's security team. I declined and explained that I wanted to cancel my membership and close both my credit cards anyways, so I shouldn't have to submit any personal information. She spoke with her supervisor, and told me I wouldn't have to do that, and that she would cancel my membership and close my credit card accounts. Fast forward a few weeks later, and I can see nothing has been closed. I reach out to customer service again via chat on 8/5/23. I'm informed nothing has been closed and that I need to send in the personal documents to prove my identity. I explain the situation, and that I spoke with ***** prior to this. He says I will get a reply within 48 hours. And naturally, I received nothing. I'm done calling and wasting my time. I'm not sure why this is so difficult or why any scammer would attempt to have credit card accounts closed. It just sounds like maybe we're being a little unreasonable and stubborn, as nothing about this is logical. I am not providing any proof of identity, you are not getting anything from me. I am not handing over sensitive information for a company I don't want to even have a relationship with anymore. Cancel the membership and the two credit cards I have with you. Please ensure to notate to credit bureaus the credit cards were closed by request from account owner.

      Business response

      08/29/2023

      Dear member, 

      We received your Better Business Bureau complaint on August?25,?2023. We appreciate the opportunity to address your concerns. 

      Security is one of our top priorities. We take seriously our responsibility to protect our members accounts and information, as well as our financial institution as a whole. 

      We regret our identity verification requirements led you to request to close your accounts and membership. I apologize for our delay in completing your membership closure request until August 19, 2023.  

      We hope this information is helpful.  

      Sincerely, 
      Vice President, Enterprise Fraud Operations 

      Customer response

      08/31/2023

      [A default letter is provided here which indicates your acceptance of the business's response.  If you wish, you may update it before sending it.]

      Better Business Bureau:

      I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me. 

      Regards,

      *************************
    • Complaint Type:
      Billing Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      PENFED Credit Union and Friends, are trying to steal my money and are trying to ruin my reputation in the community, by trying to give me the appearance, of lower intelligence in the community. PENFED Representative, communicated on the phone last month, that my, total balance, was less than $100.00 and that my minimum payment was $1.41, so I sent them more money, so I sent them $141.00, then they tried to take advantage of me, by sending me a USPS MAIL, PENFED statement, with over a $1300.00 balance on it.

      Business response

      08/25/2023

      We received your Better Business Bureau complaint on August 20, 2023. We appreciate the opportunity to address your concerns but regret you feel our prior responses to you on June 16 and July 6, 2023, did not fully resolve the matter.

      In review of your account history, we can confirm you made a large payment on June 28, 2023, which brought the account balance to $0. However, you subsequently completed multiple purchases and payments bringing the balance to $1,363.31, as shown on your most recent statement produced on July 26, 2023. We received another $25 payment from you on August 21, 2023, which brought the balance to $1,338.31. We are unable to find record of a call stating your balance was $100.

      As stated previously, you must also update your contact information on file to establish your PenFed Online account so you can view your statements online moving forward. Our Member Service team has already advised that we require a copy of a recent phone bill confirming your new phone number and our records show we have not received it yet. We do not accept screen captures. You can upload a copy at home.PenFed.org/s/document-upload.

      Our Member Service team can assist you with the requirements and instructions by calling us at ************.

      We trust this response provides clarity to your concerns.

      Sincerely,
      Senior Vice President, Operations Support

      Customer response

      09/02/2023

      [To assist us in bringing this matter to a close, you must give us a reason why you are rejecting the response. If no reason is received your complaint will be closed as Answered]

       Complaint: ********

      I am rejecting this response because:

      PENFED Credit Union, has failed to provide a PENFED Credit Union Statement, showing all alleged purchases by ******************************

      Regards,

      ***************************

      Business response

      09/06/2023

      Please refer to our prior responses on June 16, July 6, 2023 and August 25 about this issue. We encourage you to contact our member service team at ************ for assistance and we have nothing further to add.
    • Complaint Type:
      Billing Issues
      Status:
      Resolved
      I am unable to remove my old ****** external account that is setup in the PenFed online bank account. Any time I try to remove it, it will error out. I can't add a new external account either...... so I can't pay bills.

      Business response

      07/27/2023

      We received your Better Business Bureau complaint on July 16, 2023. We appreciate the opportunity to address your concerns.

      I am grateful for the trust you have placed in PenFed to meet your financial needs. For security purposes, an external account cannot be deleted through PenFed Online. Instead, members must call PenFed so a representative can delete the account. I apologize for any inconvenience this caused you.

      Thank you for speaking with us on July 25, 2023. We deleted your external account per your request.

      I hope this information is helpful and our actions have resolved your concerns. Thank you for being a PenFed member.

      Sincerely,

      Senior Vice President, Operations Support 

      Customer response

      07/30/2023

      [A default letter is provided here which indicates your acceptance of the business's response.  If you wish, you may update it before sending it.]

      Better Business Bureau:

      I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me. 

      Regards,

      ***************************
    • Complaint Type:
      Billing Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      On 6/30/23, I initiated a Bank to Bank transfer from my ** **** checking account to my PenFed credit union checking account. The funds left my ** account on 7/3/23 and were displayed as a balance in my PenFed checking account (but not available) the same day. On 7/5/23 Pen Fed started rejecting automatic ACH debits from my PenFed accounts for unavailable funds at $10 each. I immediately called and was told the funds would not be available until 7/7/23 but if I provided proof that the funds cleared my ** account they would release the funds. I printed and forwarded my online activity from my ** account but Pen Fed would not accept it. IT'S A SCAM!!!!!! They're holding my money and charging me fees. On the same day I made several other external transfers that were immediately credited to my account. If I uploaded mobile check deposits, the funds would be available. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE! SCAM!!!!!!!

      Business response

      07/24/2023

      Dear member,

      We received your Better Business Bureau complaint on July 14, 2023. We appreciate the opportunity to address your concerns regarding your recent ACH transactions.

      ACH deposits initiated through PenFed Online are made available by the 5th business day following the date of transfer.This is disclosed in your transaction confirmation and also mentioned in our Membership Disclosures that are available on our website at ************************************************************************************.

      The two deposits you initiated on June 30, 2023 were available on July 7, 2023, as per our policy. Our hold policy is to protect our members and PenFed from potential losses and may vary for external transfers, direct deposits and mobile deposits based on the inherent risk of these transactions. Unfortunately, we were unable to accept the transaction history you provided as evidence the funds had cleared your other financial institution. 

      As a courtesy, on July 14, 2023, we waived the two associated fees that posted on July 3rd and July 5th.

      I hope this information is helpful for planning future ACH deposits. Thank you for being a valued PenFed member.

      Sincerely,

      Senior Vice President, Consumer Products
    • Complaint Type:
      Service or Repair Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      On June 29, 2023, I attempted to perform an domestic external third party wire transfer for $850. The first person I spoke was ******** and she didnt perform any of the required 2-part identity verification to perform my wire transfer. I was very precise and explicitly explained that this was a new wire transfer, but ******** ignored my instructions. I also explained to ******** that I perform this type of wire transfer monthly, but again I was ignored. ******** said that she also did not need the routing number or account number for the wire because she had that information already. ******** disregarded every account detail that I tried to give her. When I asked for the reference number, she gave me an old(already used) reference number which was from June 1st. The reference number she gave me was ***-***-***-***-***, which is wrong since it was already used in my previous wire transfer request. ******** lied to me stating that my wire transfer went through successfully. I would like PenFed to investigate to see why ******** cannot do her job correctly. Perhaps she needs some additional PenFed training. I would also like a supervisor to call me to explain what I need to do to have a successful domestic third-party wire transfer in the future. This is the second time that something like this has occurred. On March 30, 2023, I had this same type of wire transfer that was “stuck” and never went through because another PenFed employee did not perform a 2-step identity verification on me. I also wanted to inform PenFed that I will be withdrawing my $20,000 from all of my checking and savings accounts because I will be banking with someone else in the future.

      Business response

      07/25/2023

      We received your Better Business Bureau complaint on July 10, 2023. We appreciate the opportunity to address your concerns.

      We regret we fell short of meeting your service expectations and would like the opportunity to discuss your concerns about your recent wire transfer request in greater detail. We understand a Member Concern & Escalation Analyst has been attempting to reach you. They have left call back instructions in a voicemail and look forward to speaking with you to discuss your concern. We encourage you to return their call.

      Thank you for being a member of the PenFed community. We value every opportunity to assist you with your financial needs should you allow us future opportunities.

      Sincerely,

      Manager,Executive Correspondence

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